Community Standards - part II

Discussion in 'gV governance' started by Mars, 10 Jan 2011.

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  1. colleen Criss

    colleen Criss Your life will never be the same again.
    Cheerful

    As for me I don't really care to see any of those types of avatars, but its not a deal breaker for me if others use them. Avatars are about self representations/moods/ etc. Child porn definately has to be out in all aspects! What adults to do /with other other adults is not my business if its of no interest to me I skip right over it.

    We make personal choices of how we want to be seen online and off. Not everyone will like it some will love it.
     
  2. nina

    nina still prettier than you
    Nerdy

    the evidence suggests that the best way to encourage community feedback is to give them a starting point to work from. the initial attempts at discussing rights/responsibilities stalled, presumably because there was no current drama and ppl were satisfied with the status quo.
    but if one is preparing for future issues, or maybe is trying to bring a plan into action that requires a framework of acceptable conduct, this sort of discussion must happen. note that this has been a discussion, not a policy announcement, the distinction is important. its an attempt to get the ball rolling.
     
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  3. nina

    nina still prettier than you
    Nerdy

    the other option is to do nothing and wait until somebody inevitably uploads a seriously fucked up av. then mars is left with a choice of becoming reactive (thats real dictatorship hey), or being left hamstrung by some existing 'no rules' policy.
    i think the proactive approach is better in the long run.
     
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  4. Snapper O'Callaghan

    Snapper O'Callaghan It's not a hug. I'm not finished strangling you.

    Discussion stalled for many reasons. This doesn't describe everyone by any stretch.
     
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  5. Snapper O'Callaghan

    Snapper O'Callaghan It's not a hug. I'm not finished strangling you.

    Nothing needs to be done. Things will be done.

    While I have no issue with any NSFW images, I can understand that there might be someone who would like to view avatars/signatures and yet has issue with NSFW images. In that instance, the "turn off images" solution is no solution at all. Certainly a remedy for that person should they want to plow forward anyway, but I just wanted to point out that there are more cats in the bag.
     
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  6. Lain

    Lain End of line. #resist
    Sneaky

    Maybe we can program in a feature where you can have the forum in PG or M mode. In PG mode, all avatars marked NSFW are replaced with some sort of censor image, and in M mode, all bets are off? While I know the coding is possible, I don't begin to understand the semantics of implementing it, so feel free to tell me to fuck off, but I thought it was an idea anyhow.

    :)
     
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  7. Lain

    Lain End of line. #resist
    Sneaky

    Just to add, you would need a toggle so people could hit the checkbox if their avie is M. This still puts the onus on the poster, but provides clear guidelines and a sanction-able directive should they not toggle the box. You could also go the other way, all avies are M by default and if you want it viewable in PG mode you untoggle the box? Just kicking ideas around outloud. Sorry. :p
     
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  8. Lain

    Lain End of line. #resist
    Sneaky

    Continuing my earlier thought as the weed starts to work, I'm thinking in the above scenario setting them to M is the best way to go. If everytime you change your avatar, it defaults back to M, then someone would have to change it to PG, and in doing so wouldn't be able to say... 'naw dawg I didn't know it wasn't toggled, sorry I posted my ballsack as my avatar'.

    Yes/no? Maybe so? Eenie, meenie, miney, moe? Word yo.
     
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  9. Clancy

    Clancy The drama is better at Hungry Jack's
    Diggingit

    1. More and more, influenced by Love's input and other's, and an episode of "Lost in Space", I am thinking it should up to the user to decide if they should view this forum or not at work.
    2. If it is possible to add a feature to gV software that would turn off avatar images, great. Consider installing that, but point #1 above should be the rule.

    And, there have been interesting suggestions about add-ons that users can implement such as Ad Blocker.
     
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  10. Lain

    Lain End of line. #resist
    Sneaky

    Without special tools or gV add-ons, Adblocker is your best bet. It provides right click blocking for images, so you can block avatars that are offensive or bad for your environment, without turning them all off. Knowing how some of our threads go, however, this might get tedious. And the bigger your adblock list, the slower pages will load (probably not noticeable at first but after a few hundred entries it gets sluggish).
     
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  11. Bulldick!

    Bulldick! Rampaging
    Notamused

    Then again, does one individual's preference rule over the rest of the community. Besides that, as Lain pointed out, there are tools to block individual images. You want filters, you take care of them (generic you).

    :hug:
     
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  12. nina

    nina still prettier than you
    Nerdy

    i didnt mean to imply the site as a whole being midway betwixt the two. i meant that particular policy, pornographic imagery posted in the forum.
    i would never suggest allowing those two sites to set any sort of standard for gV.
     
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  13. Han Held

    Han Held <3 Internet Mean little kid <3
    Doubtful

    1)Are you going to count lolicon as child porn?
    2)Are you going to count hentai/rule 34 as NSFW?
    3)wouldn't it be a LOT better to put up warnings that this site is NSFW and put up a how-to sticky for using adblock to worksafeify your gV experience?

    What did we decide about trollin?
     
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  14. Clancy

    Clancy The drama is better at Hungry Jack's
    Diggingit

    Do you consider lolicon child porn?

    Do you think hentai/rule 34 is NSFW?

    A visitor will decide whether gV is NSFW or not. It's not gV's responsibility to educate people that the internet contains images that are potentially a problem to look at on a work computer. With Adblock, you have to see and click off an image before it will not display for you, anyway.
     
  15. Han Held

    Han Held <3 Internet Mean little kid <3
    Doubtful

    1)No, I wouldn't go out of my way to post it, I'm more likely to laugh at the loli bowling image than to want to ban it.
    2)No, if where I work looks at me weird when I say "bart get out, I'm piss" then it's the wrong workplace for me!
    3)It's not gV's responsibility, but I think it's a pretty dick move to not at least have a thread saying "hey, we post nsfw images here, here's a link to adblock, and here's how you use it".
    4)collary, I think it's pretty elitist to expect everyone who stumbles on here to know immediately what gV is, and to automatically know it's a NSFW community. Letting people know it's not intended as such would also be more social than simply letting them stumble upon lemon party pictures in the middle of a hypothetical caturday thread.
     
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  16. Lain

    Lain End of line. #resist
    Sneaky

    An Adblock thread isn't a bad idea. Basically once it's been installed, which is a click or two in both of the main browsers (if you're using IE I just.... sigh). Anyhow once you install the plug in, and select your filter list (I use Fanboy's it seems to do the trick), all you do is right click the image you find offensive, and select block ad (or block image in FFox). Then you're given an option to block the exact image or tune it for blocking more images (say for example the image is at http://ads.foryourbrowser.com/ad12234234/324324_ad_image.jpg or whatever and you don't want ads from that domain so you block http://*.foryourbrowser.com/*).

    Cake. But I'm more than happy to throw up a tutorial thread a bit later when I have time to do some screenshots and stuff.
     
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  17. Clancy

    Clancy The drama is better at Hungry Jack's
    Diggingit

    I don't think it is a "dick" move at all. It is the 21st Century, maybe you should know what the internet is by now, especially if you're using it at your job? I'm not here to educate people at work how to avoid getting fired for looking at a forum. Would you feel responsible if someone got fired from his job because, as you put it, he stumbles on here, and finds boobs? I'd say that the stumbler is the dick for assuming the site does not contain risky material. I'm not an elitist, but shit, it's pretty basic knowledge by now among the greater user population surfing the web. Maybe we should have a text-only version of the site for people still using 57K modems, and a link to download the Lynx browser. :)

    But hey, fine, make that all-important notice about NSFW. I don't mind. Few will ever see it before they see boobs and lolicons, but go on and add it. It's not a big deal, imo.
     
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  18. Han Held

    Han Held <3 Internet Mean little kid <3
    Doubtful

    For not being "a big deal" you certainly appear to be getting fairly riled up about it. :)
     
  19. Clancy

    Clancy The drama is better at Hungry Jack's
    Diggingit

    No. Not at all. Just doing my best to explain myself. I only get riled up over no-mod pants.
     
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  20. Snapper O'Callaghan

    Snapper O'Callaghan It's not a hug. I'm not finished strangling you.

    It was just a general discussion point. People can handle it however they want after the policy is firmed up.
     
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